GMO: The good, bad and the not so ugly – Part – 1
Genetically Modified Tomato
With hundreds of debates going on about GMO foods and oppositions from Anti-GMO advocacy groups getting tougher by the day, I have always been inquisitive about this topic and concerned with the continuous intensity of the ongoing conflict. It’s not a coincidence my first article as a contributor is about GMO and I predict there would never be an end to the discussion.
Like many, I was uninformed and joined the anti-GMO bandwagon without fully understanding what it is or being knowledgeable about it. As we all know, knowledge is power; the more you seek, the more you learn. And the more articles and books I read on Agriculture, Food Security and Scientific Research, the more I feel puzzled about where I stand. There are grains of truth in both sides of the argument.
If your mind is already set on your beliefs, then you may not find this article interesting but I want to urge that you read it still.
I wrote it with the intent to provide information for open-minded individuals, those willing to learn and see things from both perspectives.
I know some of my friends will probably send me a message after reading this piece. They would try to convince me to change my stance.
My brother will probably be the first or my friend who recently tagged me on an anti-GMO campaign on Instagram. I didn’t like that by the way. (Instagram method of showing your approval of a post) I wondered if she knew my stance on this issue. I honestly don’t know and have always been on the fence, meddling with both sides but of late, I have made a choice, which will be clear once you are done reading.
Let’s be honest, there are lots of uninformed people out there who jump on any movement without carrying out any research or might not have access to adequate information. It can be frustrating to decipher through the mass information online and determine what sources are credible or which ones are not. What exactly does GMO mean?
“Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) is any organism whose genetic material has been altered using genetic engineering techniques (i.e., a genetically engineered organism) meaning a plant, animal, microorganism or other organism whose genetic makeup has been modified using recombinant DNA methods”. “This new science creates unstable combinations of plant, animal, bacterial and viral genes that do not occur in nature or through traditional crossbreeding methods”.
In terms of food or how it applies to farming, this is done for plants or crops to improve their durability, through situations such as drought tolerance, disease resistance, or to increase their nutritional value. These changes are also aimed at increasing crop yield and lowering costs. To better understand this, it basically means we are altering the gene of a plant to prevent it from disease and increase its nutritional value by engineering a crop’s immunity through the application of basic science. I am not a Nobel Peace Prize Scientist, neither do I claim to be an expert in Gene Transfer (Disclaimer: I only had to take one Genetics class) but isn’t Vaccination similar? Please correct me if I am wrong. We vaccinate a child to prevent them from disease in order to build their immune system. “Vaccination is the administration of antigenic material (a vaccine) to stimulate an individual’s immune system to develop adaptive immunity to a pathogen”. Do people realize the ideology of GMO’s and Vaccines are more similar than we want to admit? How do you get to be anti-GMO but pro Vaccines? It makes me wonder, are we just uncomfortable with change? Or are we making decisions based on emotions rather than scientific research and results?
THE GOOD
Everyone is aware that the world population will increase to 9 billion people by 2050; global food production will have to double to support the population increase and prevent starvation. Research has shown that GMO crops are easier to grow because they have stronger ability to resist pests, a common problem in farming. This attribute helps farmers with producing greater amounts of food.
GMO plays a role in providing farmers with potentially larger profits and it’s also economically efficient. Farmers will have a higher likelihood of increased income, which provides financial stability, re-investment into their business and an opportunity to educate their children.
Farmers have low production cost by having reduced use for pesticides and herbicides, using less chemical and fewer losses sustained from crop disease resistant.
To sufficiently feed the growing population of the world, deforestation is needed. But with genetically modified animals and crops, the use of this method will be minimized, meaning we can increase food production on our same land size.
Biotechnology has the potential to create more nutritious crops by having the ability to manipulate food and increase desired nutrients. An example is the introduction of Vit A (Golden Rice), which could possibly save the world from starvation and malnutrition.
I know the Golden Rice is currently focusing on Asia but in “Nigeria VitA deficiency affects nearly one in three Children under the age of five, increasing their vulnerability to immune system weakness and blindness”…. Harvest Plus. Hence why Vit A Cassava was introduced to Nigeria but I refuse to digress.
Better calorie consumption and dietary quality means farmers are healthy and can work harder as a result of increased income
It will decrease food prices, advanced crops and lower costs can lead to cheaper food. This will certainly help families who cannot afford to buy food, buy nutritious food and eventually prevent starvation
THE BAD
GM crops pose a threat to farmers who grow non-engineered crops. Inter-breeding from neighboring farms cannot be controlled. Example: Corn experts claimed Mexican corn (criollo) was bound to mix with improved varieties from the United States over the years. Experts claimed contamination in Mexican corn varieties was due to smuggling of GM seeds in the Mexican markets. If you are surviving on a harvest and you have a choice to plant between a corn seed that will give you 10tons per hectare or 20tons per hectare, you will take the 20tons seed presumably.
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Yewande please go back and do some research on the effects of the GMOs food on the human body system. You just painted the beneficial side of the GMO
What are these supposed effects?
People like you with little or knowledge on this subject continue to question scientific evidence through that says that GMOs are not safe. For example, the Norwegian government, via The Norwegian Biotechnology Advisory Board (NBAB), Commissioned by the Norwegian Environment Agency late last year to develop a guidance document in line with the Norwegian Gene Technology Act, with the aim to assess the sustainability of genetically modified (GM) herbicide-tolerant (HT) plants.
The report examines a dossier that was submitted to the Brazilian government by Monsanto, and it outlined how the research was flawed and lacking a tremendous amount of data. The study also pointed out a myriad of other concerns with regards to GMO Intacta Roundup and Ready 2 Pro soybeans, the examination concludes that the science behind the cultivation of this crop is simply inadequate. The report highlights a range of methodological weaknesses as well as the problem of incomplete information, research, and science on Genetically Modified Crops. Something various countries and scientists around the world have already suggested and sceptical about.
The global resistance against Genetically Modified Crops is growing at an exponential rate and this will continue. Few months ago, a group of Noble Laureates opined that GM foods could be hazardous, and 19 new countries an already long list of nations to completely ban, or at least place severe restrictions on, GMOs — and the pesticides that go with them.
In a recent study, scientist found a clear relationship between severe liver and kidney damage, as well as hormonal disturbances, in rats fed GM maize in conjunction with low levels of Roundup — levels that were below those permitted in most drinking water across Europe. The rats also developed large cancer tumours. I think it is worthy to keep in mind that we are talking about GM crops which are sprayed with billions of toxic chemicals every year. These chemicals have been linked to a number of diseases, ranging from autism and Alzheimer’s disease to cancer and more.
Stop writing on something you have little or no knowledge about. GMO is produced to generate the much needed profit for the companies at the expense of the consumers. I need to remind you that Genetically Modified Organisms are unsafe for human consumption, and that they pose significant environmental risks, too.
Are you for real? This entire post is total nonsense.
You think that only because you are a pro-GMO PR propagandist. What you are saying is total nonsense.
No…not quite. I think that because the whole post is conspiratorial BS with. Othing to back it up what so ever. That why I think that.
But thank you for your input.
It is not conspiratorial BS to call out the BS that you and the other industry astroturfers use to try and confuse and deceive the public about the facts. The only conspiracy is the one that you and your astroturf team mates have to deceive the readers with your industry propaganda and lies.
As always, thank you for your “valuable” contributions.
I do it as a public service.
People need to know who hey can trust. After all the industry pays many to try and confuse and deceive the public with GMO pesticide industry disinformation and lies
Oh yes.. and we all know how trustworthy you are… right?
Smart people with an open mind who are willing to verify the truth I speak for themselves are not influenced by self serving agenda driven GMO pesticide industry astroturfers who try and sell propaganda and lies instead of truth.
Sure thing, Ted.
Losers always start in with the Ted fiction when they are losing on the issues. Just another day at the boiler room for self serving industry trolls.
The readers can clearly see that he is more than you will ever be!
Oh yah. I bet that’s it.
There is a part 2 to this story , She is just giving us facts on the dangers of GMO and how companies are getting paid of it . Why dont you calm down and let her drop part 2 , Too much fufu and Gulder is hurts the brain
May I respectfully request the author read: Planting the Future by the European Academies Science Advisory Council 2013 before attempting to write part two.
I wouldn’t bother. Robert Wager is a pro-GMO activist and spokesperson who trolls social media 24/7 to promote antiscience, pro-agrochemical industry, pseudoscience. You can find lots of his biased, pro-GMO, antscience comments on GMO articles over the last 5 years or more. He works in the field, and his salary depends on more funding from the biotech/agrochemical industry.
Yes, he and many others are propaganda pushers much like climate change deniers.
GMO and agrochemical deniers are the same as climate change deniers. Organic industry pushers are the same as flat earthers and creationists.
“The latest from European National Academies of Science” (EASAC)
https://www.easac.eu/home/reports-and-statements/detail-view/article/planting-the.html
Look at the authors in this report.
Reidunn Aalen – has a patent on plant gene for use in genetic engineering. https://www.freshpatents.com/Reidunn-Aalen-Oslo-invdira.php
Ervin Balazs – “former founding general director of the Agricultural Biotechnology Center Gödöll,, lead a unit on molecular virology and genetic engineering of crops”
Ralph Bock – “Director of the Institute of Biochemistry and Biotechnology of Plants”,
Ian Crute : “has had a 40 year career in crop research”
Michel Delseny : Laboratoire Génome et Développement des Plantes
Torbjörn Fagerström : President of the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
Evert Jacobsen : “WU Plant Sciences. Subdivision, Laboratory of Plant Breeding.”
Ivan Kreft : “agronomskih znanosti, redni profesor genetike na Biotehniški fakulteti”
Birger Moller : “Center for Synthetic Biology”
Ewen Mullins : “15 years experience in US & Ireland in Plant Biotechnology.”
Enrico Porceddu “docente presso la facolta’ di Agraria dell’Universita’ di Viterbo.”, etc.
So you referenced a biased report written by people who have a conflict of interest since they are involved in the genetic engineering of plants.
Hilarious… it’s biased because it was written by people with expertise in biotechnology. Yah.. we should probably make sure people writing important scientific papers have no experience in the field they are writing on what so ever…. right??
Do you ever stop to think about what you’re writing??
Written by people who depend on biotech funding, is what you really mean. (And coming from another pro-GMO activist and spokesperson whose been promoting the biotech/agrochemical industry for the past several years, you lack credibility.)
Oh yes… of course, Rob. They are experts in the biotech field, so therefor they must “depend” on biotech funding. Clearly, any expert in any subject is unreliable because… well… because they’re an expert.
Sounds legit.
Self serving industry astroturfers always try to spin away the conflicts of interest of the industry junk pseudo-science ideology requires to support the poison foods industry agenda.
Well, of course Ted. That’s probably it.
Losers always start in with the Ted fiction when they are losing on the
issues. Just another day at the boiler room for self serving industry
trolls….
Yup. That must be it.
Yes, we’ve all seen the scrip before. It didn’t work then and it’s not working now.
Scrip? I don’t know what that is.
Everyone else does.
If that’s what you want to believe, have at it!
Do they actually pay you for this drivel?
It’s your conspiracy theory… you tell me.
No. It was a legitimate question you refuse to answer.
No one ever said anything about the legitimacy of your question. I said it’s your conspiracy theory. So you would know better than I.
There is no conspiracy theory, only observable facts.
You are an industry tool who is failing in his mission to deceive people about the truth.
Sure, Ted.? Observable facts. sounds good.
Losers always start in with the Ted fiction when they are losing on the
issues. Just another day at the boiler room for self serving industry
trolls…
you mean written by people who depend on taxpayers funding.
These authors do have expertise with agenda driven corporate junk pseudo-science science that must be protected real science and the truth at all costs. The authors are just pursuing their industries agenda by producing PR that supports the industry lies.
Your opinions have been noted.
I cited facts not opinions. Your industry group think bias has blinded you to the truth.
I’m afraid you need to refresh yourself on the definitions of opinion and fact.
Nope.
I don’t care what industry astroturfers like you say. Smart people don’t believe a word you say.
Whether someone believes something is not relevant to whether or not it is defined as fact or opinion.
You’re old enough that I shouldn’t have to be teaching you basic English.
I cited facts not opinions. Your industry group think bias has blinded you to the truth…
Keep trying.
I don’t “try”. I post truthful facts and expose self serving agenda driven GMO pesticide industry trolls.
Well, you have to try before you can do anything.
Wow… you clearly don’t have a clue.
Morally and ethically deficient agenda driven industry astroturfers only recognize the things they have been programed to see. They are blind to anything else. You remind me of them.
Wow! You’re pulling out all the buzz words you’ve got in your arsenal! Impressive. Spin the big wheel of idiocy and give us another one of your “catch phrase gold”!!
Everyone sees you, Jason.
We all know why your industry directs you to be here.
Nobody is buying your industry propaganda.
I’m not even a little bit worried about who sees me. That’s why my comment history is open.
Yes. Anyone can look at your posting history and see your biased industry spin and nonsense.
Yup. One of us leaves theirs open for all. And the other doesn’t. All are free to draw their own conclusion.
All people need to do is read your posts that mostly all promote the GMO pesticide industry propaganda line.
You are not fooling anyone, Jason.
Yep. People can read them all.
I am smart and I believe him
You are another well know industry troll.
I work in the agricultural industry but I do not work with or benefit from the sale of genetically modified seed so i’m non biased yet still reached the conclusion that GMO’s are safe.
That is what all the other agricultural industry sycophants say too.
Go bother someone else with your PR gibberish.
Maybe like me they are also telling the truth.
I have never seen you tell the truth. Just the opposite.
You have proven your self stupid today, again lol
You have proven yourself to be a troll who is trolling.
Said the person who trolls from multiple accounts
More troll drool from a troll who is trolling.
Ok Razorjack , GOOSE, Sparkle Plenty and E. Sandwich
No, you are a mind controlled industry operative who is here with a disinformation agenda.
leave farming to farmers and science to scientists , you do not have the knowledge needed to contribute to these debates
You are not a farmer or a scientist. You are an industry troll.
You have no idea what I have knowledge of or not.
Go crawl back under your troll bridge in Australasia
I am a scientist and have been a farmer , you know nothing
I am Batman and you know nothing, Steve.
Your a nobody without a job
You are a troll. Today I am Superman, Steve.
Ok you can be superman but you still have no job
You don’t know anything about me. You are an industry troll who is trolling, Steve Munn.
Ok answer this, do you have a job?
You are an insufferable troll. What he does is none of your business. Who pays you to dog every post from this poster?
They should ban the likes of you here.
So no job then , you could have just said so
you mean the mighty EU AgBiotech industry? Most if not all of these people are almost entirely dependent on taxpayers funding, there is not much industry funding in the EU.
You can try and spin it anyway you want to, but smart people can see the corruption.
I repeat, It’s called biased and a conflict of interest but of course your brainwashed little mind doesn’t get that. Do YOU ever stop to think about what you’re writing??
Well… seems you’re wrong again. It’s called bias if you can show their their position in life unduly influenced the paper. It’s NOT called bias to rely on expert analysis of a complex subject.
Similarly, relying on experts to interpret complex scientific information is not the same thing as a conflict of interest.
In other words, unless you can show evidence of undue influence, then you’re just wrong.
But by all means… keep trying.
Now I get it. Next time the European Academies Science Advisory Council decides to write a statement, they will ask the receptionist and janitor to sign it to avoid COI. That will be really democratic public science for everybody.
Smart people will ask independent scientists who are not supporting a self serving GMO pesticide industry agenda.
but we only have one seralini here.:}
You are grabbing at straws …. desperation is clearly on you.
ok,you are right, there is also Terje Traavik and Monika Kruger, that makes three.
Self serving agenda driven GMO pesticide industry trolls always try and vilify ethical independent scientists when their work doesn’t support the industry agenda.
They don’t pay him to think. They pay him to post industry propaganda and lies.
I believe this to be true. It’s quite obvious to see what types of people are hired to do this sort of ‘job’ with an unconscious and uncaring mind. Most of these trolls demonstrate the same behavior.
You two clowns are such clueless tools. It cracks me up.
Funny how you cast aspersions on others but have the very same defect you are publicizing about others.
Sure… keep telling yourself that if that’s what gets you through the day.
define conflict of interest.These are all public scientists, paid by taxpayers
money. Is anyone who is professional plant scientist having a conflict of interest?
Nonsense: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2829174/
Nonsense? Your link doesn’t disprove anything he’s said. It also doesn’t prove anything in the ENAS paper is inaccurate.
You try so hard to hold on to your silly beliefs. Wouldn’t it make more sense to form your beliefs based on the evidence?
Deflecting is what you are really good at
And pointing out when you’re full of $hlt
So according to you, I am full of sh&t because I provided a link to a report explaining how science can be manipulated, biased, bought and a conflict of interest??? You’re the one who is full of sh&t!
No… you’re full of $hlt because you make the claim that the ENAS paper IS biased and then provide nothing to support that.
I provided why it is biased, can’t help it if you are illiterate.
Well… your reason was because these people are in the field of biotechnology. Which is exactly who SHOULD be writing a paper on biotechnology.
That is exactly why you’re full of $hlt.
More BS as expected! Do you think they would write a paper on biotechnology showing the harm their products have been shown to cause? No because their whole business would come crumbling down but again, you are too brainwashed believing their lies and so you lie for them too. You should really pull your head out of the sand. GMOs are nothing more than a scandal and fraud.
Lol… “harm they’ve been show to cause.”!! People sometimes don’t believe me when I tell them about you nut-bags! But you just can’t make this stuff up!!
No one made it up. The facts are the facts. We all know that you are dispatched here to spin away the truth and promote your industry’s false narrative with your lies.
Ok, Ted.
Yup, harm they do cause, science has proven this and it’s a fact! And, you are actually the brainwashed “nut-bag” who believes what biotech pseudoscience tells you.
Your “sky is falling” nonsense hasn’t come true in over 20 years. But by all means… keep trying.
Utter nonsense! Wash, rinse, repeat!
Yup. Nonsense that you nutters have been repeating for 20 years.
And it’s a wonder why nobody takes you seriously.
Only to you pro-GMO, biotech loving and brainwashed nutters. Nobody takes you trolls seriously.
Oh yes…. only “pro-GMO, biotech loving and brainwashed…” and the rest of the scientific world. But who’s counting?
You’re just so out of touch with reality.
“And the rest of the pseudo-scientific world”
Well….sounds like you got it all figured out. Let me know how that works out for ya!
Must be tiring for you having to rely on conspiracy theories to support your weak arguments.
“GMOs are nothing more than a scandal and fraud”
If GMOs are frauds does that mean they are not really genetically modified or does it mean they are not really organisms?
I would love to see her address the investigative report by the New York Times nonetheless that said and i quote “About 20 years ago, the United States and Canada began introducing genetic modifications in agriculture. Europe did not embrace the technology, yet it achieved increases in yield and decreases in pesticide use on a par with, or even better than, the United States, where genetically modified crops are widely grown.” —- Nigerians should look at the data for themselves and judge…
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/30/business/gmo-crops-pesticides.html?_r=0
https://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2016/10/the-tiresome-discussion-of-initial-gmo-expectations/
https://grist.org/food/what-the-new-york-times-missed-with-its-big-gmo-story/
Yes…they should look closely at the data.
Data from biased, biotech BS is not honest data. Your sites are not reliable sources.
It’s not data from “biased, biotech BS”. It the very same data referenced in the NY piece above in addition to USDA data.
You really should try reading the references before commenting on them.
I was referring to your bogus links!
I know what you are referring to and my comment still stands. You obviously didn’t bother reading.
Nobody believes a word you or your self serving industry astroturfer team mates say.
Nobody has to believe anything I’ve said. I provided the information for them to decide for themselves.
Have a great weekend!
You confuse “information” with self serving industry spin and propaganda mixed with lies.
Blah… blah…….. blah.
You wish … desperation is apparent for the exposed industry trolls here.
data are data. they might be incorrect or completely wrong. But if you claim that the data provided by jason are incorrect you have to explain why and put another set of more credible data on the table. If your only argument is that Jason’s data must be wrong because they do not fit your narrative. By the way Andrew Kniss has used the same dataset as the Ny Times article.
Weedcontol freaks is an industry astroturf site that contains agenda driven prophaganda.
The Grist piece is by known industry propagandist Nathanael Johnson and is just more industry PR prattle and disinformation.
Typical from known industry operative Jason.
Thank you for your opinion, however that has no impact on the data contained within. And yes… data and facts are typical of me. Thank you for noticing.
It is the opinion of most independent people who will avoid industry controlled astroturf sites like the ones you always link to to try and support your industry propaganda and lies.
If the information is legitimate it can be found on legitimate sites. You come up empty when you link to PR controlled sites.
Thanks again for your “insightful” opinion.
You are welcome.
It is always a pleasure to expose your industry astroturfer disinformation and lies.
by legitimate sites you mean naturalnews, gmwatch, sustainablepulse and similar?
Nope.
I look for sites with truthful information. GM Watch and Sustainable pulse have a good reputation for truthfulness. I have never cited Natural News.
Not only that. The same type of people who use this technology rely on synthetic fertilizer. Midwest is having a huge issue with water contamination and the people are getting sick from this.
Negative Effects of Synthetic Fertilizers
Synthetic fertilizers have long-term negative effects. Synthetic fertilizers kill beneficial microorganisms in the soil that convert dead human and plant remains into nutrient-rich organic matter. Nitrogen- and phosphate-based synthetic fertilizers leach into groundwater and increase its toxicity, causing water pollution. Fertilizers that leach into streams, rivers, lakes and other bodies of water disrupt aquatic ecosystems. Synthetic fertilizers increase the nitrate levels of soil. Plants produced from such soil, upon consumption, convert to toxic nitrites in the intestines. These harmful nitrites react with the hemoglobin in the blood stream to cause methaeglobinaemia, which damages the vascular and respiratory systems, causing suffocation and even death in extreme cases (when blood methaemoglobin level is 80 percent or more). Synthetic fertilizers damage the natural makeup of soil in the long term. Plants that grow in overly fertilized soil are deficient in iron, zinc, carotene, vitamin C, copper and protein.
https://homeguides.sfgate.com/effects-synthetic-fertilizers-45466.html
My dear Yewande, I believe that you write these articles to help and encourage people in their health so with this knowledge I would encourage you to do a proper research into these claims of “GOOD” that you have made. Please understand that people are reading and will read this in the future so be careful with what you endorse. Please note that there are a lot of fake and unverified research papers and articles that are published on this GMO issue even on credible health and food related journals. I would recommend that you go to Youtube and type “GENETIC ROULETTE” and watch a thorough documentary that was done on GMO’s, you will see that it is not wonderful as you think it is. Since you gave the analogy of GMO’s and Vaccines I will give you another analogy of GMO’s and the Human Genome Project. Do you consider it ethical that scientist are currently trying to clone a human being? Taking different good genes from man and using it to recreate a clone. That is what GMO is… Please do your research well before you post on things you don’t know about.
First of all, what is wrong with cloning a human? There are millions of clones walking around all over the world now, we normally call them identical twins though.
“GENETIC ROULETTE” was written by Jeffrey M. Smith, a flim flam man and a con artist, who knows nothing about GMOs.
Can you tell us specifically what is wrong with the facts exposed in this book or are you going to take the troll road again to slime the author because you are not capable of discussing the details and facts from the book?
What book? We were discussing a movie. Ted is getting dumber by the day.
Can you tell us specifically what is wrong with the facts exposed in
this movie or are you going to take the troll road again to slime the film maker because you are not capable of discussing the details and facts
from the movie?
Losers always start in with the Ted fiction when they are losing on the
issues. Just another day at the boiler room for self serving industry
trolls.
Well the title of the movie was not spelled incorrectly, but other than that it is all wrong.
Why so angry today Ted? No pudding pops today in the old folks home?
Razorjack is correct. You are sliming the author because you are not capable of discussing the details and facts from the book/film.
LOL, defending yourself… How sad.
You are sliming the author because you are not capable of discussing the details and facts from the book/film. Now you are deflecting from the the fact that it is about you and your mindless industry agenda and has nothing to do with razorjack or me or any other truth teller.
A bit hypocritical dont you think?
razorjack 3 days ago
“Weedcontol freaks is an industry astroturf site that contains agenda driven prophaganda.
The Grist piece is by known industry propagandist Nathanael Johnson and is just more industry PR prattle and disinformation.
Typical from known industry operative Jason.”
You should learn the difference between truthfulness and hypocrisy.
Telling the truth is not hypocrisy.
I do know the difference, you are a hypocrite, your arguments are weak and you know it.
You are no one to judge the strength of my arguments, baby troll.
If you have specific criticisms of specific points I make, please point them out. Otherwise you are just spewing more odorous BS to keep your hand in he conversation.
My specific criticism is that you asked someone to address an argument rather than criticize the source of the argument but in a previous post you criticized the source of Jasons argument rather than address the argument made.
Hence you are a hypocrite.
Who are you to say I cannot judge the strength of your argument, we are on a public forum I can do what I want, and unlike you I am actually educated in the field I am debating.
Pure poppycock.
You are an industry troll and you are trolling. That is why they send you here.
I can see your comments you are a hypocrite, why would you bother lying
You are a troll and you are trolling.
But you still are a hypocrite, I am the one who tried to discuss GMO safety with you but you would rather call people names from multiple accounts.
Maybe English is not your native language so you don’t understand what I have written. Is it ignorance or hypocrisy? The consequences are the same.
So your saying your an ignorant hypocrite?
Nope.
As usual you are totally clueless, troll baby.
It is what you said , so now you are an ignorant hypocrite liar.
Other disqus users agree with me. You are nothing but a common troll, Steve.
Which other users?
Read the thread for yourself, Steve.
It’s only you who has disagreed with me
That is because I am the only one you are trolling, Steve Munn.
So no one agrees with you?
Nonsense.
Don’t you have anything better to do than to troll?
I just want to know who the others are that agree with you about me been a troll
Go and play in the sandbox with the other children, Steve Munn.
It’s so easy to outsmart you
You are delusional … lol!
At least I have a job
Your job as an industry troll hardly qualifies for legitimate work.
Due to you joblessness I don’t rate your opinion very high, you talk rubbish about hard working scientists life work yet you have contributed nothing to society, you call farmers “fools” for protecting their crops with pesticides yet you have never grown a commercial crop and do not understand the stress involved. Go get an education, get a job, work hard for several years then come back here and let someone tell you that your work is rubbish, your a paid shill and industry troll then see how you feel.
Why is it that jobless people are the ones who think they know how the world works better than everyone else?
You know nothing about my employment status.
Your whole bogus troll narrative falls apart when your delusional claims and opinions come out.
You are a troll and you are trolling.
So do you have a job or not?
It is none of your business. You are a troll who is trolling ….
Just say no, it is the correct answer
hyperzombie, do you have an investment or vested interest in GMOs, their production or distribution? Or do you work in a GMO producing company or their affiliates? If you do, then I understand your shortsightedness but if not, then do a proper research in these issues devoid of the plastic and lifeless research pasted on so-called government agency journals that have been bought over. Also, what makes Jeffery M. Smith “flim flam” ? Is it because he’s not a big name in the industry or because he has been persecuted by the goons of GMO companies who have tried to discredit him for telling on them? Following the crowd isn’t always where the answer is but on the path despised and rejected by the same crowd. As for the issue of cloning, I will correct you on this: Identical twins are not clones but actual human beings born of a woman and not created in a lab. WAKE UP!!!
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